Oh Noes! Socialism!
by Buck • Sunday, June 21st, 2009 - 2:50 pm
Bunch of deadbeats just may end up getting something for free after all… and all of it on Ray’s dime.
I still don’t see this happening though. This administration says it’s something they want to happen but they become less convincing of that each passing day. Then there’s the teeth gnashing coming from the tight-ass far right. If folks like Ray have to pay in to something which may help out a lazy, no-good DFH, then where is their reward? And don’t ask “what would Jesus do?”… religion can only be used as a sword against the poor, they gays and the liberals.
Everyone having access to health care? Yeah, I’ll believe it when I see it.
Tagged: Health Care, government-run health insuranceMost in US support govt-backed health care: poll
The overwhelming majority of Americans support substantial changes to the country’s health care system, including a government-run health insurance option, a new opinion poll found.
The survey by The New York Times and CBS News also indicated most Americans would be willing to pay higher taxes so everyone could have health insurance.
Eighty-five percent of respondents said the health care system needed to be fundamentally changed or completely rebuilt, according to the poll.
In addition, the survey found that 72 percent of those questioned supported a government-administered insurance plan — something like Medicare for those under 65 — that would compete for customers with private insurers.
Twenty percent said they were opposed.
When asked which party was more likely to improve health care, 18 percent of said the Republicans while 57 percent picked the Democrats. Even one of four Republicans said the Democrats would do better.
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:59 am
Hey, Ray here!
I find this statement interesting;
Two recent news media polls have found public support for a government plan, even if many people are unsure about its implications.
Hey they are getting something for "Free" why not support it. It's no skin off their backs. I mean it is working so well in places like Canada why not here. My question is, where are the people from Canada going to go for their health care when ours becomes socialized? A number of years ago (ABC, CBS, or NBC, so it MUST BE TRUE) did a profiled a company in Canada that bought a company here in the United States, I think it was Georgia, solely because they wanted to use the employer heath care plan it provided and not the socialized (FREE) health care plan Canada has. It talked about how many Canadians come across the border paying cash to get operations and other health care issues that they could get in Canada but it would be months down the road before they could get it OR they were deemed as "Not Beneficial" other words they were to old to spend the money on. It wouldn't be cost effective to spend the money on someone that could be dead in five years. Now that's real compassion.
Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it!
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:33 am
From everything I've read about Canada's health care plan, it's not perfect.....but it's far better than ours. If their health care plan is sooooooo bad why do they rank higher than the U.S.?? Is the world health organization full of crap Ray? Instead of looking to Canada as an example, why not look to France, who ranks numero uno. Ohhhhhh how scary...socialized medicine and they rank number one in the world for health car. Something else Ray, I know MANY people from the U.S. who go overseas for dental and medical work. Even with the travel costs, it is cheaper and BETTER.
I wish for single payer. And hope I get it.
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:44 am
How's that any different from Bush, his republican pals, the mindless 28-percent followers, and you, Ray... saying no to SCHIP?
Ray, what do you propose people without health coverage do? Get a third or fourth job? Move in with their parents? Just die off already because they're probably democratic voters anyway, and don't matter?
Heartless much, Ray?
You do realize more and more employers are dropping health coverage every day, right? Do you have children, Ray? I'm assuming you don't. I'm also assuming your pretty well off too. What else would explain you thumbing your nose at the less fortunate around you.... other than being utterly stupidity.
We get it, Ray. You don't give a flying fuck about anyone but yourself. What a mighty fine American you are, Ray. What a mighty fine human being you are.
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:58 pm
The W.H.O., sure, there's no agenda there; they rank up there with the noble prize.
Ya right, France, The same country that's health care system in 2007 was 9 Billion dollars in the RED. But hey, that was smaller than the year before so.... good on them! They'll just have to up their 21% tax to 25% or more to make up the difference or do what they ARE doing and start charging patients more for some drugs, ambulance cost and other services. HEY, ISN'T THIS SUPPOSED TO BE FREE?!?!?!?!
Even in the United States, there are some things the health care providers wont pay for such as experimental surgery or drugs unless you are a Senator on their health care system. That's why many people head overseas.
And no, I'm not rich, I have kids, under 8, and a wife that had two back surgeries a few years ago. We are strapped for money, there are some times we have to decide what bills to pay. But I don't expect anyone to pay my bills.
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Well, Ray... you should know there aren't any guarantees in this world. Especially when so many like yourself have come to believe that only the rich deserve health care. So, when you and your family DO go under, and you will, I still hope you receive better treatment than what you're wishing on other folks today. Others probably don't. Others probably hope that you end up choking on past decisions you made which brought hurt upon other people, and die a horrible, fiery death. I don't. I do hope that one day you see what you've done and come back and apologize for your stupidity and narrow-mindedness.
But I seriously doubt you will. You're not big enough.
And one more thing, Ray. If some type of universal health care is passed, and your employer decides to drop your ass, I do expect you to do the right thing and tell your children you've decided they'll be doing without. Okay?
You're hoping that upon other people's children today, right? So I can hope that upon yours can't I?
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:45 pm
What's so funny about this, Ray, is that you believe that the people without any type of health coverage are lazy deadbeats. Do you know how far from the truth that is? There are hard working families out there, who have worked very hard to make ends meet and pay their own way, who have lost their jobs, their health insurance, and have no means in which to get that back. Good people. People who you are saying "fuck you!" to right now.
You know what. I just realized (again) that all I'm doing is wasting my time with you. You simply do not give a damn about anyone but yourself.
Ray, the next time you feel a need or desre to visit here and post some stupid shit, why not just go someplace else instead? You simply do not have any opinions I care to hear. You are proving to be a huge waste of my time and my server's resources.
See, I can be a tightass just like you, Ray.
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
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