You get yourself all ready to argue a point, then they throw you a curve ball.

Sometimes it’s just impossible to weigh the good against the bad. That old saying, “People kill, not guns” is true, but you have to admit, a society cocked and loaded is bound to have a much higher crime rate than one that is not.

Still, I cannot take away a person’s ability to protect his or herself. Bad people won’t harm or kill you unless they know they have the upper hand. So, if someone does plan on bringing you harm, they’ll probably succeed… unless you protect yourself accordingly. I see no other way of being able to do that than by owning a gun yourself.

I would love to see a world completely free of guns. But that’s wishful thinking. Guns are here to stay. But guns are only a small part of the problem. Crime will occur with or without guns. Archie Bunker, of the TV show “All in the Family“, when arguing with his daughter, Gloria, over gun crimes, remarked; “Would it make you feel better, little girl, if they was thrown outta windows?”

NRA sues to overturn S.F. gun ban in city housing

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — The National Rifle Association sued the city of San Francisco on Friday to overturn its ban on handguns in public housing, a day after the U.S. Supreme Court struck down a handgun ban in the nation’s capital.

The legal action follows a similar lawsuit against the city of Chicago over its handgun ban, filed within hours of Thursday’s high court ruling.

In San Francisco, the NRA was joined by the Washington state-based Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms and a gun owner who lives in the city’s Valencia Gardens housing project.

The gun owner, who is gay, says he keeps the weapon to defend himself from “sexual orientation hate crimes.” He was not identified in the complaint because he said he fears retaliation.

Mayor Gavin Newsom said the city will “vigorously fight the NRA” and defended the ban as good for public safety.

Because it just wouldn’t be right or fair to care more for people’s lives, in general, than it would be to cater to a handful of nuts who think that the only opinion that matters is theirs.

Supreme Court strikes down D.C. handgun ban

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court says Americans have a right to own guns for self-defense and hunting, the justices’ first definitive pronouncement on gun rights in U.S. history.

“To me it makes no sense…”

What doesn’t make sense to you? That a college (liable for the children) is doing it’s best to keep on-campus shootings from occurring? That they realize the most stupid thing you can do is arm everyone (which would include the mentally imbalanced, the love-lorn, the heavily drinking frat boys)?

That makes no sense to you? Have you considered the possibility that maybe you shouldn’t be carrying a gun?

I’m tired of arguing. I say give them the guns. All of them. Let them shoot it out. Once the smoke clears and all the bodies are planted into the ground, maybe the pro-gun nuts will stand up and take a bow.

Students want chance to defend themselves

CINCINNATI, Ohio (CNN) — “Would you rather just sit there and cower underneath a desk when someone executes you or would you rather have a chance to defend your life? That’s what it really boils down to.”

Michael Flitcraft, a 23-year-old sophomore at the University of Cincinnati, has become a leading advocate for college students to carry weapons on campus. He’s an organizer for Students for Concealed Carry on Campus, a grass-roots organization that was formed after last year’s Virginia Tech massacre that left 32 college students and professors dead.

The group boasts more than 25,000 members.

Standing on the Cincinnati campus, Flitcraft calmly explained he is licensed to carry a weapon in Ohio. He wants to carry his gun on campus to defend himself from potential killers, but by law he can’t.

“To me it makes no sense that I can defend myself legally over there,” he said, pointing to the city streets. “But I am a felon if I step on the grass over here.”

Bed wetter, Robert Novak, may not be able to survive one more day on planet Earth if he can’t come to a conclusion on where Barack Obama stands on the Second Amendment. It weighing pretty heavily on his mind.

I posted on this once before. There is no way anyone can win an argument with idiocy. It’s ongoing. It’s futile. The only thing that pisses me off about the whole gun issue is that there aren’t more AK-47-toting gang members living on Novak’s street. Cause if there were, I would happily supply the bullets!

AK-47s… not just for squirrel hunting any more (AS OF THEY FRIGGIN’ EVER WERE!).

KENNER, La. (AP) — The cake had been served and the children were jumping up and down in a big, inflatable castle when the birthday party turned to bedlam.

Clarence McGraw’s jaw dropped as he saw the visitors coming, guns drawn. The screaming began.

Children ran everywhere in the courtyard of the low-income apartment complex; adults fell to the ground. Bullets flew. The killers wounded three youngsters, but for reasons police can’t explain, it was 19-year-old McGraw they were after.

As McGraw lay in the center of the green square, the gunmen stood over him and fired again. He was shot 15 to 20 times in all.

The Sept. 15 killing was remarkable in that it took place in the most innocent of settings - the fifth birthday of twin boys. But it was unremarkable in that one of the guns brandished was an AK-47-type rifle - a powerful, rapid-fire weapon that has long been used in Third World conflicts but is increasingly being used in American street fights.

As a recent commenter to a similar post, Slaytanic213, posted:

We really should start arming our young with AK-47s. We’re morons for not doing that!

Stupidity - It’s not just for breakfast any more.

Thanks, QG, for the link to this.

Can you believe the utter stupidity??? Tell me something… WHY don’t these gun nuts argue for rights for people while inside court rooms? I think people in court rooms across America should be allowed to carry a loaded gun. And I want the NRA to fight for that. Isn’t that my friggin’ Constitutional right???

Also, I want the NRA to fight for my right to carry a loaded AK-47 through ritzy, upscale, republican-leaning neighborhoods. I want to be able to walk their streets, day or night, with my loaded gun… cause you never know when I may need to defend myself!

More guns may enter U.S. parks

National parks may follow in Florida’s quiet footsteps in relaxing gun restrictions in wild lands.

Along with cameras, coolers and camping gear, visitors to Biscayne and Everglades national parks sometimes pack something else: Guns. [...]

National Park Service rules already allow guns — but only unloaded and stored so they are not ”readily accessible.” Gun-rights advocates argue that restriction infringes on their ability to defend themselves.

”Having a firearm loaded puts you in a better position to protect yourself,” said Barbara Jean Powell, spokeswoman for the Everglades Coordinating Council, a coalition of hunting and outdoors groups. ‘Every time I read about some woman walking in a park who gets abducted and murdered, I think, `If she had a firearm, she might have had a chance.’ ”

“If she had a firearm, she might have had a chance.” Barbara Jean Powell, you are one stupid bitch.

Relaxing the rules and putting more guns in more hands will mean even more bad guys are going to be abducting and murdering woman. I don’t wish for you to be one of them, but hey, keep peddling that brand of stupidity and you just might be.

Ok. If you are pro-gun ownership for one and all, including the mentally retarded, YOU ARE STUPID!
No ifs, ands or buts… YOU ARE STUPID!
Accept it as fact, for that is what you are - STUPID!

What this country needs is a national IQ test, say, every five years or so. If you fail, you leave.

Va. Tech Families to Lobby Legislature

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — As he sat in a hospital, watching blood ooze from his son Colin’s gunshot wounds, Andrew Goddard negotiated with a higher power: Let my son live, and I will do what I can to spare another parent this torture.

Colin survived, despite the four bullets fired into him by Virginia Tech gunman Seung-Hui Cho.

Now his father is making good on the deal: He and relatives of others killed or injured on the campus in Blacksburg will lobby for changes to the state’s gun and mental health laws during the General Assembly session that begins Jan. 9.
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However, people can still buy guns through other means that require no background check in Virginia, such as gun shows where scores of people sell or swap firearms.
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Joseph Samaha, whose daughter Reema was killed in the shootings, asked state Sen.-elect Robert Hurt: “What is the fear of someone having to go through the background check?”

Hurt responded that closing the loophole would infringe on a person’s right to possess a firearm.

“Is it a nuisance factor?” Samaha challenged.

Hurt paused, then said: “More important, it’s a liberty factor.”

The families will encounter many other lawmakers who share Hurt’s views, but they’re determined to forge ahead.

Liberty factor? What about the liberties of those killed, Mr. Hurt?

I suppose Mr. Hurt would also argue for no car seats for infants, for a free pass for drunk driving… etc. Hey, it’s all about ‘liberty’, right?

STUPID PEOPLE ought not be in positions of power.

Last Friday, a state circuit court ruled against an Oregon high school teacher who wanted to carry her Glock semi-automatic pistol to school. She argued she needed the gun to protect herself from her ex-husband. But the school district, for some odd reason, had a policy of prohibiting guns.

Shirley Katz had the backing and support of the pro-gun crowd. The same crowd who have argued that “teachers, and maybe even students, should be armed“.

Yes, you read that correctly.

And people wonder just how the greatest nation on earth can wind up with Bush as it’s leader.

By JOHN HOLUSHA and AL BAKER
from The New York Times

Two New York police officers were shot and wounded, one very seriously, in the early hours today while they were making a traffic stop in Brooklyn, police officials said.

The police investigated the scene in Crown Heights where two officers were shot and wounded early Monday morning.

Officer Russell Timoshenko, 23, was reported to be in grave condition with two wounds to the face and with bullets lodged in the back of his skull. His partner, Officer Herman Yan, 26, also was wounded, but a shot to his chest was stopped by his bullet-resistant vest.

“One will recover, and one is clinging to life,” Mayor Michael Bloomberg said at a morning news briefing about the incident.

Police were seeking at least two suspected shooters, but no arrests have yet been made. However, police officials said three guns have been recovered, and that they have video images of the shooting and its aftermath.

“There is a lot 0f video out there,” a police official said.

Some of the video images show people leaving the BMW and walking down a driveway or alley. The three guns were found dumped there. The police described the weapons as a 9-millimeter pistol, a 45-caliber pistol and a Tech 9.

According to police sources, the two officers were on uniformed duty in a marked car in the Crown Heights section of Brooklyn at about 2:30 a.m. when they spotted a BMW sport-utility vehicle. When they checked its license plate number and found that that plate was registered to a different vehicle, they pulled the BMW over, suspecting that it had been stolen.

As they approached the vehicle, from opposite sides, shots erupted from the passenger’s side, striking Officer Timoshenko. Officer Yan ran to his assistance and returned fire. He was hit in the left forearm and chest before the BMW sped away.

read more at THE NEW YORK TIMES

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

No matter how you feel towards the Second Amendment, this legislation is definitely a step in the right direction!

Democrats, NRA reach deal on gun bill

Measure stiffening background checks would be 1st major reform since ‘94
Jonathan Weisman, washingtonpost

Senior Democrats have reached agreement with the National Rifle Association on what could be the first federal gun-control legislation since 1994, a measure to significantly strengthen the national system that checks the backgrounds of gun buyers.

The sensitive talks began in April, days after a mentally ill gunman killed 32 students and teachers at Virginia Tech University. The shooter, Seung Hui Cho, had been judicially ordered to submit to a psychiatric evaluation, which should have disqualified him from buying handguns. But the state of Virginia never forwarded that information to the federal National Instant Check System (NICS), and the massacre exposed a loophole in the 13-year-old background-check program.
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By contrast, this agreement is a marriage of convenience for both sides. Democratic leaders are eager to show that they can respond legislatively to the Virginia Tech rampage, a feat that GOP leaders would not muster after the 1999 shootings at Columbine High School in Colorado. Meanwhile, the NRA was motivated to show it would not stand in the way of a bill that would not harm law-abiding gun buyers. Even so, it drove a hard bargain to quiet its smaller but more vociferous rival, Gun Owners of America, which has long opposed McCarthy’s background-check bill.

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